{"id":18313,"date":"2007-12-11T21:09:38","date_gmt":"2007-12-11T20:09:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fiala.de\/liability-for-occupational-pension-schemes-3\/"},"modified":"2007-12-11T21:09:38","modified_gmt":"2007-12-11T20:09:38","slug":"liability-for-occupational-pension-schemes-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/liability-for-occupational-pension-schemes-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Liability for occupational pension schemes ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Explosive liability risks for employers &#8211; reduced benefits for employees !<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Today I bake, tomorrow I brew and<br \/>\nthe day after tomorrow &#8230;&#8221; (Grimm&#8217;s fairy tale)<\/p>\n<p>Uncertain pension<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The pension is safe&#8221; proclaimed the<br \/>\nPolicy. This was followed by an appeal to<br \/>\nCitizens may want a second<br \/>\nThe mainstay of old age, the occupational<br \/>\n(occupational pension scheme), in particular<br \/>\nthrough deferred compensation.<br \/>\nThis form of saving also means<br \/>\nfor the citizen a noticeable<br \/>\nConsumerism.<br \/>\nClever sellers, especially of<br \/>\ninsurance products, used the<br \/>\nFavour of the hour. Employers were<br \/>\nmasses of contracts worth billions<br \/>\nsold through high acquisition costs<br \/>\nin the first few years often<br \/>\nhave no surrender value at all.<br \/>\nAcquisition and administrative costs<br \/>\nwere paid out of the employees&#8217; wages<br \/>\nfi nanced. What to do with a small salary conversion<br \/>\nwith, for example<br \/>\nstarts missing 2000 Euro, ends in the<br \/>\nAge with a defi cit in up to more<br \/>\nthan 10 times the magnitude. For these<br \/>\nDifference sticks with something &#8220;bad luck&#8221; the<br \/>\nEmployers.<\/p>\n<p>Insurers calculate with<br \/>\nuninformed customers<\/p>\n<p>In the magazine Versicherungswirtschaft<br \/>\n&#8230;a department director&#8230;<br \/>\nLife insurance &#8211; even in corporate insurance business<br \/>\nactive &#8211; on<br \/>\nthe point: employers will<br \/>\nrarely sue for malpractice,<br \/>\nbecause &#8220;the facts are sometimes so<br \/>\ncomplicated that they themselves are tax<br \/>\nand pension consultants hardly discover<br \/>\nBecome.&#8221;<br \/>\nInsurers are protected<br \/>\nby &#8220;intransparency as well as the regular<br \/>\nlong periods of time until detection<br \/>\nand judicial clarification of the<br \/>\nLiability Facts. &#8230; &#8211; a miscounseling<br \/>\nagainst this background<br \/>\nfundamentally difficult to prove.&#8221;<br \/>\nAnd the damage assessment<br \/>\nis &#8220;not easy and of future<br \/>\nDevelopments Dependent.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Secure employer liability<br \/>\nthe pension trap<\/p>\n<p>The core problem is that almost everyone<br \/>\nEmployer about the acquisition costs<br \/>\nhas not been resolved. For the<br \/>\nEmployee remains with average<br \/>\nseniority mostly<br \/>\nmore &#8220;net&#8221; left over if he uses the money<br \/>\ntaxed without the occupational pension model and<br \/>\n&#8230;in his bankbook.<\/p>\n<p>Support from actuaries<br \/>\nas experts<\/p>\n<p>The much vaunted &#8220;independent&#8221;<br \/>\nOn closer inspection, the advice turns out to be<br \/>\nAudit in over 95% of cases as a liability trap<br \/>\nfor employers. High administrative<br \/>\nand acquisition costs<br \/>\nlater the balance sheet, up to insolvency.<br \/>\nAs a rule, only one independent<br \/>\nActuary (consultant) to show the employer<br \/>\ncan determine which economic<br \/>\nLiability risks exist &#8211; the complex<br \/>\nCircumstances can be<br \/>\nbut to make it transparent and to create a<br \/>\nEquality of arms with the only supposed<br \/>\nprotected by non-transparency<br \/>\nproduct providers and intermediaries.<br \/>\nActuaries are mathematically trained<br \/>\nExperts the questions<br \/>\nfrom the following areas<br \/>\nInsurance, building society, investment<br \/>\nand pension scheme with<br \/>\nmathematical methods of probability theory<br \/>\nand statistics<br \/>\n(actuarial mathematics, building society mathematics<br \/>\nand financial mathematics)<br \/>\nand find solutions for them under<br \/>\nConsideration of the legal and<br \/>\neconomic environment.<br \/>\nThe aim of actuarial activity is to assess<br \/>\nand evaluation of risks<br \/>\nas the insurance risks,<br \/>\nInvestment risks and liquidity risks.<br \/>\nIn general terms<br \/>\nan actuary deals with business processes,<br \/>\nin which mathematical or<br \/>\nstatistical methods used<br \/>\nwill be. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wikepedia.de\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\">www.wikepedia.de<\/a><br \/>\nFurther sources: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aktuar.de\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\">www.aktuar.de<\/a> Germans<br \/>\nActuarial Association e.V.<\/p>\n<p>Money-back from the sponsors of operational<br \/>\nPension funds<\/p>\n<p>The insurance intermediary shall take into<br \/>\nas a rule, personal trust is required<br \/>\n&#8211; also behind a mediation<br \/>\nGmbH, he cannot hide: He<br \/>\nis personally liable. But also the insurer<br \/>\nor a provident fund<br \/>\nare liable to the employer. A need for action<br \/>\narises mainly because<br \/>\nthe employer 30 years (limitation period)<br \/>\nanswer to one&#8217;s employees<br \/>\nmust &#8211; for the rest, however, after 10<br \/>\nyears at the latest for the employer<br \/>\nthe recourse against the intermediary<br \/>\nmay be time-barred. Actuaries &#8211; who work with the<br \/>\nCalculation of such long-term contracts<br \/>\nwith different performance components<br \/>\nare familiar &#8211; can<br \/>\nbut the developing damage<br \/>\nstill predict in time.<br \/>\nIt is not uncommon for the expert opinion of a<br \/>\nActuary and the cover letter from a lawyer,<br \/>\nfor the complete reversal<br \/>\nto reach. For the employer<br \/>\nreassuring is that then also<br \/>\nCosts of the actuary or expert<br \/>\n(without the yes transparency and<br \/>\nDetermination of damage usually not possible<br \/>\nare) and the remuneration of the lawyer<br \/>\nfrom the sponsor of the occupational pension scheme<br \/>\nare to be taken over: He is liable<br \/>\nalso for its intermediaries, because these<br \/>\nshall be deemed to be his vicarious agents.<\/p>\n<p>Success through competence<\/p>\n<p>Day-to-day practice shows that an actuarial<br \/>\nExpert opinion<br \/>\nand a lawyer&#8217;s letter<br \/>\nusually suffice, so that<br \/>\nthe damage suffered by the employer is compensated<br \/>\nwill. There are already numerous<br \/>\njudgments &#8211; another may hardly be a<br \/>\nInsurers risk. In the end<br \/>\nthe insurer with an insurance policy not<br \/>\ntransparency.<br \/>\nAs long as the lawsuits &#8211; as the industry<br \/>\nis limited,<br \/>\nis therefore not considered from a business point of view.<br \/>\nreasons prefer to pay out of court<br \/>\nand avoid new relevant judgments.<br \/>\nThe employers have above all<br \/>\ntherefore quite good chances, because regularly<br \/>\nsuspicion of fraud<br \/>\nby insurers and intermediaries in the<br \/>\nobjective-criminal sense in the<br \/>\nemployer as soon as he has been<br \/>\nactuary and lawyer about the existential<br \/>\neconomic consequences of his<br \/>\noften touted as liability-proof<br \/>\nModels for occupational pension provision<br \/>\nhas been cleared up. When intermediaries<br \/>\nit must be said that their<br \/>\nMisadvice hardly ever leads to liability suits<br \/>\nbecause they already have<br \/>\nthe assessment of the loss by the insurer<br \/>\nare protected by non-transparency,<br \/>\n&#8230;you can&#8217;t find the thing that&#8217;s behind these contracts&#8230;<br \/>\nthe economic risk involved.<br \/>\nThe difference between a<br \/>\ntheoretical and a realizing<br \/>\nRisk lies for the product provider<br \/>\nand intermediaries then only in the<br \/>\nTransparency.<br \/>\nDr. Johannes Fiala, (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.fi\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\">www.fi<\/a> ala.de)<\/p>\n<p>(Brennpunkt Handwerk 2\/2007, 34)<\/p>\n<p>Courtesy of <link http:=\"\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.handwerk-rww.de\" class=\"external\" rel=\"nofollow\">www.handwerk-rww.de<\/a><\/LINK>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Explosive liability risks for employers &#8211; reduced benefits for employees ! &#8220;Today I bake, tomorrow I brew and the day after tomorrow &#8230;&#8221; (Grimm&#8217;s fairy tale) Uncertain pension &#8220;The pension is safe&#8221; proclaimed the Policy. This was followed by an appeal to Citizens may want a second The mainstay of old age, the occupational (occupational [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":"","rank_math_focus_keyword":"","rank_math_description":"","rank_math_title":""},"categories":[492],"tags":[652,506,592,487,568,569,553,588,505,488,516,504,497,514,510,501,531,493],"class_list":["post-18313","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-veroeffentlichungen-en","tag-aktuare-en","tag-bav-en","tag-verguetung-en","tag-beratung-en","tag-entgeltumwandlung-en","tag-arbeitgeberhaftung-en","tag-falschberatung-en","tag-incorrect-advice","tag-insolvency","tag-haftung-en","tag-life-insurance","tag-pension","tag-altersversorgung-en","tag-regress-en","tag-reversal","tag-support-fund","tag-steuer-en","tag-versicherung-en"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18313","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=18313"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18313\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18313"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18313"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiala.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18313"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}